1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,839 well joining us now from Manchester is 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:08,599 the respect party MP George Galloway who 3 00:00:04,839 --> 00:00:11,400 has met uh Fidel Castro you're a 4 00:00:08,599 --> 00:00:13,519 Democrat does that pose any problems in 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,799 terms of how you viewed Fidel 6 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:17,279 Castro well if people believe the 7 00:00:15,799 --> 00:00:19,880 package they've just heard which could 8 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:22,119 have come from Fox News you would think 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,480 that Fidel Castro was some kind of 10 00:00:22,119 --> 00:00:25,920 tyrant well I'm sure I can assure you 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,320 that's what your viewers will be 12 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,960 concluding that was the most biased 13 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:33,559 package I've heard today and I've been 14 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,680 on the media all day let's go over the 15 00:00:33,559 --> 00:00:38,800 package let's not go over theage I'm 16 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:41,600 asking you a simple question your well 17 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,680 the question is this are the Cuban 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,840 people liberated from the misery that 19 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,840 afflicts most of the people of the third 20 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,000 world and the answer is yes they can all 21 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,600 read and write they live longer than 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,239 they do in Washington DC their children 23 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,000 are more likely to survive than the 24 00:00:56,239 --> 00:01:02,199 children of Washington DC they can't 25 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:05,640 vote 50 years just well you know Health 26 00:01:02,199 --> 00:01:07,640 and Longevity and education free at that 27 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,759 these are human rights too but does that 28 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,920 not POS you a problem as a Democrat that 29 00:01:09,759 --> 00:01:14,000 they can't vote let if you will if you 30 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,360 will let me finish I'll come on to that 31 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:21,200 point if it were not for the 50 years of 32 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Siege blockade assassination Invasion 33 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,920 subversion by the most powerful country 34 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,320 in the world just 75 miles away then 35 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,680 these other rights would have been 36 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:32,880 achieved too you bet you'd be better 37 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,960 addressing your questions to the United 38 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,079 States of America which for nine 39 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:39,240 administrations in a row has done 40 00:01:37,079 --> 00:01:41,640 everything it could to destroy the Cuban 41 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Revolution precisely because it's an 42 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,079 example to the PE the people of the 43 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,399 third world not least Latin America 44 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:49,439 where more and more of them are 45 00:01:47,399 --> 00:01:51,200 following it in you can't blame 46 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:53,399 Washington for the lack of democracy can 47 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,719 you in in in in Cuba and there's no 48 00:01:53,399 --> 00:01:57,479 doubt that some people in Cuba want 49 00:01:55,719 --> 00:02:00,520 democracy and want a say in their 50 00:01:57,479 --> 00:02:03,520 Affairs well we all want democracy 51 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:06,039 but the facts are that in Latin America 52 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,360 the only way to get elected now is to 53 00:02:06,039 --> 00:02:10,599 profess friendship with Fidel Castro and 54 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,000 opposition to George Bush none of which 55 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:15,920 was reflected in your package Fidel 56 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Castro Hugo Chavez seem like the men of 57 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:19,720 the hour don't they rather than Milton 58 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,080 Freedman why don't they go to the 59 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,560 electorate then in Cuba if if if Fidel 60 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Castro is so fundamentally popular why 61 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,239 not make the transition to democracy now 62 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,800 well well when the United States lifts 63 00:02:30,239 --> 00:02:35,360 the state of war and Siege on Cuba 64 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,200 that's irr normal life can no it's 65 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,040 absolutely irrelevant when Hitler was at 66 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,040 the channel ports threatening to invade 67 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,760 us there wasn't much democracy and if 68 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:46,080 you'd wandered around the East End tring 69 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,800 for Hitler you wouldn't have lasted long 70 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,159 there's every there's every threat 71 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,159 they've tried to kill Fidel Castro 72 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:53,800 hundreds of times they've invaded 73 00:02:52,159 --> 00:02:55,680 countries all over the world thousands 74 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,239 of miles from their Hitler didn't stop 75 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,560 democracy in Britain what makes yes he 76 00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:02,519 did as a matter of fact many Democratic 77 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,640 freedoms were suspended in Britain 78 00:03:02,519 --> 00:03:06,760 especially for those who were prizing 79 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:10,400 for Hitler and that's the comparison 80 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:12,440 that you have to make we Ling that Siege 81 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,920 no you did actually if you if you knew 82 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,120 anything about British history you'd 83 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:19,159 know there were no elections you say un 84 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:22,120 suff was ended by what by by Hitler in 85 00:03:19,159 --> 00:03:23,879 the 30s the parties the parties didn't 86 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,280 fight each other throughout the course 87 00:03:23,879 --> 00:03:29,159 of the second world 88 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:31,519 war young was on our door well let's 89 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:33,879 talk about for a minute can we when when 90 00:03:31,519 --> 00:03:36,360 Hitler was on our doorstep Democratic 91 00:03:33,879 --> 00:03:38,480 freedoms were ciled in Britain the 92 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,480 United States is on the doorstep of Cuba 93 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,040 and has tried to destroy it for nearly 94 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,280 50 years and so some democratic freedoms 95 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,280 are Su where do you see the future I 96 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,280 mean do you see the revolution 97 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,239 continuing post Fidel or or do you think 98 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,959 there will be some sort of 99 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:56,799 transition despite your propaganda 100 00:03:54,959 --> 00:03:58,799 socialism Will Survive it's not 101 00:03:56,799 --> 00:04:01,599 propaganda these are simple questions 102 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:03,720 it's Fox News propaganda which I've come 103 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:06,439 to get used to from Channel 4 News all 104 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,560 right fine we put aside we will put 105 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:11,000 aside the abuse I'm asking you a simple 106 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,920 question about how you see the future of 107 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,560 Cuba do you think there will be some 108 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:19,239 transition socialism will survive I know 109 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,120 that makes you sad but it will survive 110 00:04:19,239 --> 00:04:23,639 the Free Health Service Will Survive 111 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,880 free education Will Survive Cuba will 112 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:29,120 continue to be an icon for people around 113 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,199 the world who want to see Liberation and 114 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,759 want to see the escape from the 115 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:36,680 domination of globalized capitalism and 116 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:39,880 United States domination George Galloway 117 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,880 thank you for joining us